Unless you're a major fan of the series, don't bother wasting your money buying the dvd.
Added 11/22/2009
I saw Terminator: Salvation in theaters and I was extremely disappointed in how the origional story line that James Cameron created, went right down the toilet.
Here are the major issues I have with this movie:
1. In Terminator 2 and even Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles, Sarah ALWAYS told John to run when he saw a machine. He is too important for the future. What do they have John doing in this movie? They have him on the front lines hunting the machines.
2. Who is the leader of the human resistance? John Conner. Why is he reporting to superiors and taking orders from them? Who fricking knows. John should be giving orders, not taking them and having others report to him.
3. Who is John's father? Kyle Reese. Do the machines know who John's father is? According to the first film, NO. All records were destroyed during the nuclear war, the machines had no clue who Conner's father was, but yet somehow Reese's name ends on the top of a list that the machines are targeting for termination. Then the machines find Reese, but don't terminate him. WTF? If the machines aquired their target, they would have terminated him ASAP, they would not have taken him to the work/slave farm.
4. For those that have see Terminator 3, towards the end John asks the T-800 (Arnold) why he wasn't alive in the future and that his wife sent the T-800 back. The responce was: because of the emotional connection John had with the T-800 model when he was younger (Terminator 2) he infiltrated his base and killed John. Now in Terminator: Salvation John faces the new T-800 model, with a digitally imposed Arnold body. Does John die? No, he lives, but the laws of physics are completely shattered during the fight. John shoots a hole in a basin that has melted metal in it. It's pretty much molten lava. It spills on the T-800 and completely covers it, but the T-800 survives and contines coming after John. Wait a minute, didn't a T-800 and the T-1000 get destroyed in melted metal at the end of Terminator 2? Major screw up there if you ask me. Anyway, back to T4, the T-800 is after John, so he shoots a pipe, it bursts and splaches liquid nitrogen on it. The T-800 is frozen, but not defeated, because it breaks free and continues after Conner. Ok, so let me get this straight, the T-800 is covered in molten lava then frozen very quickly after and it can still move? Highly unlikely. If you know anything about going from extreme heat to extreme cold, especially with metal, it explands, then contracts and becomes brittle. So the T-800 would have been stuck because the joints would not have been able to move and Conner would have had an easy victory by beating the head and destroying the chip.
There are to many continuity issues from the origional James Cameron films that just don't follow into this forth installment. As far as I'm concerned, this forth film doesn't belong in the story line. If they continue with the series, they need to fix the errors they made otherwise, they will just ruin it for me.
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The Alien vs Predator of the Terminator series.
Added 11/18/2009
A few good ideas that were just terribly, terribly executed.
The reverse time traveler. I enjoyed that idea. Sam Worthington, con on death row is executed, but before dying signs his life away to Cyberdyne systems, wakes up in the future, and spends it trying to piece together what happened. Cool.
Beyond that...what the heck?
The first two movies (the REAL terminator movies) had this ever present mood to them. Mass human genocide was coming and there was nothing that they could do about it. People were going to die and it was just...really, depressing and threatening and remained this heavy presence just over the horizon.
But with Salvation...the apocalypse comes and...it's no big deal. Apparently much of the military managed to survive (chain of command included)John Connor is just a cog in the system who spouts gibberish over the radio, and... his father from the future is a fun loving, happy go lucky rogue...
None of which connects to the previous movies very well.
There is no emotional connection in this movie. The characters are just...boring. They're cardboard cut outs of people, people created to serve a purpose, but never given a chance to ever seem like real people. Hot American Indian chick, plot device to show Sam Worthington's character's humanity, and predictably help him out of a tight spot. John Connor (Christan Bale), auto distrusts all machines which makes no sense given the previous movies. And we can't even go into all of the stupid mistakes that he makes for someone that was trained as a soldier and should know what the terminators are capable of. Bryce Howard playing John Connor's wife... Why does John Connor need a wife? Why does his wife play no conceivable purpose in the story whatsoever other than being there?
And could someone please tell me why Common was even in the movie other than he wanted to be? He must have something like 2 lines.
I think it's a steaming pile of crap. But I'll admit people have disagreed with me.
If you ignore the previous movies and take it as a stand alone. It's okay...maybe. I just feel that the studios have done to terminator what they did with the Aliens franchise. The good writer/director leaves and then the studios go right ahead and f- it up.
If you liked Alien vs Predator (all 5 of you) than you might enjoy this movie. The rest stay away...stay far away.
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full price, fair price
Added 11/16/2009
I want to pay full price for this movie. Do I have any options? Why is the price always falling? Full price does not seem so unreasonable.
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DVD is dead?
Added 11/10/2009
I really don't see the need for Blu-Ray. It's not like a different form of media like DVD was to VHS. Both DVD and Blu-Ray are digital. The difference? Blu-Ray can hold more data. Who cares? My DVDs look great with my upscaling DVD player (using HDMI), so I don't really see the point for Blu-Ray.
Now, I really wanted to buy the Director's Cut DVD of this film, but it will only be on Blu-Ray. Does the studio think I'm going to buy a Blu-Ray player just for 'Terminator Salvation?' LOL no. I didn't even do that for 'The Dark Knight.'
So, all the studio is doing is losing money by forcing me to have to download the Director's Cut, rather than purchase the DVD (which I wanted to do, since I have all of the other 'Terminator' films). So, it looks like they'll be losing a lot of money with this stupid stunt of theirs. People who don't have Blu-Ray aren't going to buy a player just for a movie like this, so this was a bad idea. Instead, people who want to see the Director's Cut are just going to find alternative methods to do so, which will completely cut the studio out of the profit.
Good going.
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Not Suspenseful + Not engaging and exiciting as Terminator 2
Added 11/8/2009
- The special effects are not as exciting as Terminator 2.
- There's no suspense in this movie. Terminator 2 is suspenseful from the beginning till the end.
- There are a lot of actions but they're not engaging as those of Terminator 2 either.
- It was supposed to be touching at the end when someone scarified to give his heart to another person but I was not moved. I don't know it's because of bad directing or acting. It might be both.
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Terrible flick!
Added 11/20/2009
This movie sucks! The only reason I gave it 2 stars is because of the great special effects. Extremely bad acting, HELLO......Christian Bale, need I say more? Extremely stupid ending too! My God, who approved this script? They should be castrated!And who ever thought Bale would be good as John Connor? He sucks in everything else, but I had high hopes for this movie and just like everything else with him in it, it blows. If you just have to see it to complete the series, rent it from red box so you only waste a buck. If you suffer from insomnia, it is better for you than sleeping pills.
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If you love the Terminator franchise...well, you'd HAVE to love it to endure this mess. The first two flicks were awesome, of course. The third? Not so much. T4? The downward spiral continues. Huge budget, talented actors and great story material are all majestically pissed away. The Charlie's Angels films were light and fun but McG needed to introduce a bunch of peripheral characters that would have been fine in another film but who cares? I didn't and that was the problem. Bryce Howard gets to walk around with big eyes. Christian Bale gets to play in some over-the-top effects sequences. Sam Worthington and Moon Bloodgood(sp?) get to have a romance and why do we need this or care? All of these people are extremely talented and again, the effects? More or less spectacular. But I found myself apathetic. In the earlier films you found a stake in the characters and cared. With T4 I felt like I was watching a play by Max Fisher. Well done but just not the real deal.
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This is what happens when...
Added 11/15/2009
You put a director who doesn't know how to handle the mythology correctly and allows the primary actor to direct from behind his back. His even mentioned that there was over FORTY minutes cut from the movie!
I find it hilarious that the "Director's Cut" only adds in a pathetic THREE minutes into the movie, what happened to the other Thirty-Seven minutes? You know why its a "R" rated release now? Inside those three minutes, you will see a actors.. wait for it... Breast!
Instant Rate R!.....
I didn't like it when I watched it in the theaters. Something there that seemed to nag at me when I walked out at the ending, and I certainly don't like it even more when I found out what was happening behind the scenes to bloat this movie into the 200 Million dollar turkey it turned into! James Cameron spent close to 120 million ('80s/'90s bucks!) to make T2 -which was an Rated R movie no less!- and made a summer blockbuster. Mgee-whiz dumped something equivalent and laid a rotten egg because he couldn't control an actor.
Typical hollyweird in action.
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